July 12th, 2009
FIdo, here demonstrates that the old cliche "you don't hunt dear with a fully automatic assault weapon" is as clearly false as the republican idea that allowing "homosexual" marriage will lead to men marrying their do...wait, what is Fido?
To be fair, it's probably not fully automatic: such things are restricted to holders of class III licenses, and cost over ten thousand dollars..
which, in and of itself goes against the intents of those who wrote the second amendment. but, at least it's available. in a way.
oh, and most cops have fully automatic weapons, even if they don't walk around with them, and will use them in completely non-work related activity, if they can get away with it.
Most cops will do a lot of things if they can get away with it.
I'd wager you're right about cops. Who wouldn't, if they could?
Cops, of course, being Class III license holders, and those weapons usually owned by their department.
You're totally off base with what the framers intended regarding the second amendment, though. The Supreme Court has already determined that the Constitution enshrines individual ownership. And Class III restriction is entirely logical, as someone needs to be able to have access for when the proverbial fecal matter impacts the proverbial cooling device.
of course, the Judicial is always completely correct about the desires of the framers of the constitution. thank goodness for people like you who accept the word of one branch of a monumentally misnamed government. you must make political debate easy.
There is not automatic class three for being a cop. getting through most police academys barely qualifies one to fire a pistol and certainly doesn't equate to the knowledge nor ability for use of fully automatic weapons.
|Date:||July 14th, 2009 02:08 am (UTC)|| |
1. You imagine that you know better how to interpret the Constitution and the law than the SCOTUS? Intriguing. Good thing for the rest of us your ill informed opinion is both wrong and irrelevant.
2. No shit. But if a cop has been issued such a weapon, I guarantee they have a license and training. This should be obvious.
2. your understanding of training and licensing amoungst police is, well adorable.
1. heavens forbid someone have a different interpretation of words written by people over two hundred years ago than a bunch of politically appointed nougat brains. yeah. go you. and calling my opinion wrong is as ill conceived as it would be if I were to assume you have a JD.
thank goodness you were not amoungst the founding fathers, letting all of the rest of us get killed for your sense of safety.
|Date:||July 15th, 2009 02:53 am (UTC)|| |
So much fail. Try again.
1. Oh, you got killed for my sense of safety?
Intriguing. How did that go down?
So next on your list of things to ban must, of course, be cars, yes? Since they kill tens of thousands of Americans every year? And booze? That's a big ole can of worms, the booze.
Yeah, didn't think so.
It breaks down like this, cupcake:
People have the right to defend themselves until the police arrive. The best way to do that is by knowing how, and having the tools to do so, from, say, Krav Maga classes to concealed carry permits and classes, as the individual so chooses. Better yet, all of the above.
Because the police cannot and should not be everywhere at once. It's just not possible, and it's not desirable either.
Now, you may prefer to not have the ability to prevent yourself and your family from being, say, raped with your own cordless drill, when someone breaks in at 3AM. And that's your right.
Call it gene-pool self-cleaning at work.
But in my house we know where to go, what to do, who to call, and how to clear the Bersa if it jams, and how to clear the house and grounds.. just in case criminal/predator types decide they're going to pay us a little visit. As happens more and more often in times of economic difficulty.
And that's my right, as enshrined in the constitution, and as affirmed by the Supreme Court. Yours too, if you'd bother to exercise it.
Same as we know what to do and where the fire extinguisher is in case of a fire, or what to do if something happens to one of our pets.
For that matter, we know when and how to grab the bug-out bags and evacuate and where to go if we ever have to (fire, flood, etc), or when and how to board up the house and sit tight with our weeks store of food and water.
Because we don't fuck around. Shit happens. But it's not going to happen to us if we can at all avoid it with a tiny bit of foresight and planning. Whatever 'it' may be.
And if nothing ever happens? No fires. No breakins. Yay. That's the goal. It's still fun to use the same methods and equipment for other purposes, like camping and target shooting.
But by all means, if you know something I don't.. please, share.
I love few things as much as having my mind changed.
2. Isn't it though? Apparently reality has an adorable bias.
Know what else is adorable? How you don't actually correct me with factual information, rather, you prefer to simply claim that I'm 'adorable' and wrong.
How is my information incorrect? You don't say. Are you a LEO? Share your unique and special insight into how you and your fellow officers are trained and licensed. Stun me into informational corectitude with your authoritative first hand knowledge.
Could it possibly be because you don't know anything and are actually talking out your ass? Methinks.
But please, as I said, change my mind.
Few things are better.
|Date:||July 15th, 2009 03:01 am (UTC)|| |
Re: So much fail. Try again.
Re: So much fail. Try again.
Can you to please shut the hell up? Take it out of my journal.
You especially squidboi are annoying the everliving shit out of your hostess.
The guy you're replying to is a gun owning freak. LIKE ME.
So quit your preaching.
And saying asinine things like "cupcake" and "adorable" it just makes you look like more of an asshole. Which makes you annoying and ignorable. Learn how to make an argument with facts not sarcasm.
And again. STOP this now, I'm already pissed off enough.
|Date:||July 15th, 2009 04:02 am (UTC)|| |
Re: So much fail. Try again.
1. He started it, as you'll see if you look through the thread.
And if he's a gun owner, why the flying fuck is he arguing against gun ownership? 0_o
2. Yes ma'am. Your journal, your rules. Squid out.
|Date:||July 13th, 2009 05:22 am (UTC)|| |
Four out of five poodles agree:
The AK 47 is their favorite, paws down.
|Date:||July 13th, 2009 03:14 pm (UTC)|| |
Go ahead say something nasty about Poodles now!!!!
|Date:||July 13th, 2009 05:50 pm (UTC)|| |
Love hunting? But sick of trudging out through the woods hoping to find a deer? Then we have the solution for you! At Billy-Bob's Canine Hunting School we train your dog to hunt for you!
That white dog is one bad mutha--
Shut your mouth!
But I'm talkin' 'bout the dog!
Oh, then we can dig it!
Being a trustee has its advantages.
|Date:||July 14th, 2009 02:12 am (UTC)|| |
Everyone forgets, the poodle is a hunting breed.